tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post2284624944606099692..comments2023-11-30T06:32:59.453-06:00Comments on Brian Leiter's Nietzsche Blog: Help Sought: Looking for a Nietzsche QuoteBrian Leiterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08749548844483929392noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-28820328811103321232010-07-02T10:25:34.110-06:002010-07-02T10:25:34.110-06:00Check KSA 11, 40 [13]
(“[…] die Logik stammt ni...Check KSA 11, 40 [13]<br /><br /><br />(“[…] die Logik stammt nicht aus dem Willen zur Wahrheit” ,<br /><br />and also<br /><br />KSA 12, 10 [19]<br /><br />“Der Substanzbegriff eine Folge des Subjektbegriffs: nicht umgekehrt !”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-58173925425009793942010-06-16T14:31:03.013-06:002010-06-16T14:31:03.013-06:00Related more to "truth" than to "lo...Related more to "truth" than to "logic" there is:<br /><br />"The valuation 'I believe that this and that is so' is the essence of truth. In valuations are expressed conditions of preservation and growth. All our organs of knowledge and our senses are developed only with regard to conditions of preservations and growth. Trust in reason and its categories, and Shane Wahlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-63758720838494156862010-05-17T00:45:02.238-06:002010-05-17T00:45:02.238-06:00Brian,
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Die Kategorien sind „Wahrheiten“...Brian,<br /><br /><br />14[152]<br /><br />Die Kategorien sind „Wahrheiten“ nur in dem Sinne, als sie lebenbedingend für uns sind: wie der Euklidische Raum eine solche bedingte „Wahrheit“ ist. (An sich geredet, da Niemand die Nothwendigkeit, daß es gerade Menschen giebt, aufrecht erhalten wird, ist die Vernunft, so wie der Euklidische Raum eine bloße Idiosynkrasie bestimmter Thierarten und eine Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-67942701599687570322010-05-05T19:54:15.301-06:002010-05-05T19:54:15.301-06:00Hmmm...
Brian: the only example I can think of at...Hmmm...<br /><br />Brian: the only example I can think of at the moment is when he connects psychological behaviours to the beginnings of justice...and then extends it (I think) to morality (in the Genealogy of Morals, essay #2)<br /><br />"Sale and purchase, together with their psychological concomitants, are older than the origins of any form of social organization and union: it is rather Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04907234677389270424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-57405265713187293782010-04-30T05:34:47.013-06:002010-04-30T05:34:47.013-06:00i remember reading something very similar about th...i remember reading something very similar about this point of Nietzsche's in one of the sections in Hales and Welshon's 'Nietzsche's Perspectivism', probably the chapter on Perspectival Logic, so it's likely any relevant quote will be in there. sorry i don't have it to hand, but distinctly remember it. good luckjsnowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10744752971707210581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-44634422207633282722010-04-29T22:17:14.088-06:002010-04-29T22:17:14.088-06:00But this is what the will to truth should mean to ...But this is what the will to truth should mean to you: that everything be changed into what is thinkable for man,visible for man, feelable by man. You should think through your own senses to their consequences. (...) And how would you bear life without this hope, you lovers of knowledge? You could not have been born either into the incomprehensible or into the irrational. (Z:II.2)John Ayalanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-6049551238999862132010-04-20T12:00:10.772-06:002010-04-20T12:00:10.772-06:00Thanks very much for these suggestions. isobel...Thanks very much for these suggestions. isobel's from WP come closest. I have this sense that there is some passage in Nietzsche where he says, in effect, that it's merely a psychological fact about creatures like us that we abide by the rules of logic, not some transcendental truth about the nature of logical norms. But I may be misremembering. More references welcome!Brian Leiterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08749548844483929392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-54620236860374752012010-04-20T10:05:12.893-06:002010-04-20T10:05:12.893-06:00From the late notebooks there is this that corresp...From the late notebooks there is this that corresponds to what mattia pointed to:<br /><br />34 [124]:<br />"<i>The logic of our conscious thinking is only a crude and facilitated form of the thinking needed by our organism, indeed by the particular organs of our organism.</i>"<br /><br />I also wonder if the logicians Nietzsche is thinking about were influenced by Hegel - maybe his Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-56618113141457836352010-04-20T04:39:10.056-06:002010-04-20T04:39:10.056-06:00Hallo. I remember Nietzsche talking about the &quo...Hallo. I remember Nietzsche talking about the "subjektive Nötigung [...] nicht widersprechen zu können" (see Nachlass in Schlechta, p. 729). In another passage he writes similarly about the "psychologische Nötigung" regarding causality (it should be easy to find the corresponding passages by searching in NietzscheSoruce). I'm not sure, though, that's what you are Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-17935819499839331532010-04-19T22:47:40.764-06:002010-04-19T22:47:40.764-06:00You don't mean this one:
Behind all logic and...You don't mean this one:<br /><br />Behind all logic and its seeming sovereignty of movement, too, there stand valuations or, more clearly, physiological demands for the preservation of a certain type of life.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08417970139690159046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-53355161223807458722010-04-19T21:55:34.442-06:002010-04-19T21:55:34.442-06:00No doubt you're aware of this, but Nietzsche s...No doubt you're aware of this, but Nietzsche says some things rather like what you're talking about early on in GS book III (secs. 110-11). In particular, this little nugget: <br /><br />"The course of logical ideas and inferences in our brain today corresponds to a process and a struggle among impulses that are, taken singly, very illogical and unjust. We generally experience onlyJordanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14924174025559082053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-78515942626040486872010-04-19T20:42:43.992-06:002010-04-19T20:42:43.992-06:00I'm not quite sure what exactly you're loo...I'm not quite sure what exactly you're looking for, as, I'm sure you know, there are many passages wherein Nietzsche naturalizes and/or psychologoizes logic. Anyway, 516 from Will to Power (below) was the first thing that popped into my head, though reading it over now, I'm even less sure that it's what you're after. After finding it, I found other passages in that same Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14590610658555919194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4373556239088388790.post-7020737642290616272010-04-19T18:36:52.237-06:002010-04-19T18:36:52.237-06:00To the Realists - You sober beings, who feel yours...To the Realists - You sober beings, who feel yourselves armed against passion and fantasy, and would gladly make a pride and an ornament out of your emptiness, you call yourselves realists, and give to understand that the world is actually constituted as it appears to you ; before you alone reality stands unveiled, and you yourselves would perhaps be the best part of it, oh, you dear images of Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08282853515586785055noreply@blogger.com